By: unclekb
11/4/2012 1:24 PM
Heard it briefly discussed at the Avon meeting... Would it work at the S curves? Motels in Buxton?
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By: 14 hours away
11/4/2012 1:47 PM
Did anyone discuss artificial shoals? Yes it too is costly and it takes many years for results to show, but it does work. Between this and beach nourishment, I feel there could be a big difference made in hi beaches.
I would think enviors would want this, without beaches there would be no beaches for turtles and birds to nest.
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By: Tim-OBX
11/4/2012 1:52 PM
Heard it briefly discussed at the Avon meeting... Would it work at the S curves? Motels in Buxton?
After seeing that it does not wash away in small storms or big storms it might be discussed a lot more often in the near future.
There was some form of beach nourishment done on Hatteras Island back in the late 90's, but I can't find anything about it or anyone that remembers it. Maybe some from Hatteras remember. It had to be around 1995-1998 and was being done where the old Coast Guard station was on he northern point of the island where it meets the Oregon Inlet bridge. I remember flying over the inlet and seeing pipes and bulldozers running around the beach. After seeing the beach nourishment process in NH I can tell it was the same thing. It looked like it was being done on the gov't owned property there. Anyone remember it or knows more?
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By: robschonk
11/4/2012 2:16 PM
I talked to Alan Burrus after the meeting and told him they needed to start pumping the sand from the dredging over the jetty onto the Island. Mother Nature would take over the chore of distributing it down the Island, although it would be awhile before it got to Rodanthe...
He said it had been done, but they couldn't even get money for dredging now
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By: RobertGeeJr1
11/4/2012 2:23 PM
what they were trying to do was take what they dredge out of the Oregon Inlet and get it back into the lateral current going south. it proved way to expensive for the state to do. since the eco-nuts until now had had put a stop to replacing the Bonner, remember the state skated by the laws by putting the rock groin to save the Bonner and to keep the inlet from moving, you know people don't mean $%#@ to them, it cut off the flow of sand. there is not enough money to dredge the inlet right, take the sand and pipe it out to the south, those beaches are starved of sand. I remember until the early 90's there were massive dunes all along 12 south of the inlet. Waves and Avon are lucky they get some sand from the old Wimble Shoals that has kept the beaches stable to growing.
Back when they built the Bonner, we actually invested in roads in the country, it was not a bad word, so people figured in 25 years we will start a new one to keep up with the inlet. Its moved almost 3 miles south since it opened. Between strong currents, storms, and steep beach profile beach replenishment has a poor and expensive history on the banks. Remember the park service itself tried 4 times in front of the Cape Hatteras lighthouse in the late 60's to 1972 and gave up. If the eco-nuts knew how to compromise they could build a new, better bridge, allow the inlet the fluctuation it needs in storms to move and give the state some room to move the road west, like they use to do, a lot of problems would be solved.
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By: robschonk
11/4/2012 2:48 PM
Amazing thing about Wimble Shoals. It used to be a cape in Colonial times. I was always confused by this old map drawn by Capt. White in 1585, until I read that the pink area labeled Croatoan is Buxton to around Hatteras Village, and above Buxton is the old Chacandepeco inlet, which closed (and was reopened during the Ash Wednesday storm, and tried to reopen during Sandy)
Map cropped to show detail
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By: MikeW
11/4/2012 3:42 PM
I have seen several mentions of moving the road west. From looking at the orthos I don't see there being much room to move it without it being in the sound. The proposed distribution of dredged sand would cost money that does not seem to exist. No easy answers seem to be apparent.
One would think the state and county have an obligation to provide a road for the residents. But in this time of asking the government at all levels to reduce spending, it is hard to see the support for a massive outlay of funds from the Feds or the state.
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By: Pickle
11/4/2012 5:11 PM
Being a fisherman, I can not agree with letting Oregon Inlet go natural as one responder alluded to. Why not "Kill Two Birds With One Stone" not literally, but dredge Oregon Inlet properly and pipe the sand South. The Government lied when they declined jetties and promised to keep the Inlet dredged to an established depth. Dredging projects unfortunately are annual budget money and there is no money. Jetties would have slowed the Bridge deterioration and saved dredging money. Now marry the Dredging and BN and we may get someplace. Don't give me the Environmental nonsense. We have peoples lives and livelyhoods at stake, then bring in the people right to beach access. Dredge the Inlet properly and give back Hatteras Island to the people.
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By: RobertGeeJr1
11/4/2012 6:39 PM
When I said go natural I was meaning as it want to move south, they should still dredge the inlet to keep it as deep as needed.
Plus where is the money going to come from to build the jetties, or to pump the sand from one side to the other which that alone will cost many times more than Washington is willing to spend on the dredging it does today. And if that is not done right it would destroy Pea island, look at what the Ocean City Md. jetties have done.
And I agree about dredging the inlet right, it should be done, but if its not a weapon, or other things I won't bring up here then then we are just out of luck.
and if it was not for the eco-nuts they could move the road west. I think moving the road west would be less damaging than having dozers and scrappers and repaving the road by the ocean every year.
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By: Rodanthepier
11/4/2012 7:48 PM
Stepping in here carefully here ,,,, most officials and engineers I've talked to blame the erosion rate from the inlet south to Waves on the getty at the inlet. Most also believe that this erosion rate will stabilize and even reverse itself. They talk about the erosion rate in Rodanthe currently , as being 4 feet a year on the north side of the pier and 3 feet on the south side. That was recently revised up as it was 4 feet a year south of the pier a couple of years ago.
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